{"id":33015,"date":"2016-11-29T05:00:41","date_gmt":"2016-11-29T12:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tested-neuron.flywheelsites.com\/?p=33015"},"modified":"2017-06-13T16:41:13","modified_gmt":"2017-06-13T22:41:13","slug":"engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/","title":{"rendered":"The Engine That Runs on Water: Q&#038;A with Exergyn"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Each year, billions of dollars in energy<\/strong> are lost in the form of low-grade waste heat, a common byproduct of fuel consumption. Despite annual waste heat equating to 12 years of electricity consumption in the EU, there remains no commercial solution to convert that heat into usable electricity.<\/p>\n<p>But what if hot water, a resource that has proven nearly impossible to capitalize on, could be converted into a viable fuel source, thereby harnessing massive amounts of wasted heat energy and reducing global carbon emissions in the process?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"right\"><p>The Exergyn engine could reduce global carbon emissions by a staggering 1.2 percent.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;The Exergyn engine could reduce global carbon emissions by 1.2 percent.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks to Dublin-based <a href=\"https:\/\/www.exergyn.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Exergyn<\/a>, one of the truly palpitation-worthy startups to emerge from Ireland\/the U.K. in the last five years, the world may soon have access to an engine that runs on nothing but hot water.<\/p>\n<p>The Exergyn Drive\u2122 creates electric or mechanical power from low-grade waste heat by tapping into an under-utilized material called shape-memory alloy, a super elastic metal that expands and contracts when heated and cooled. If the Exergyn Drive\u2122 were to be fully deployed within its target market, it could reduce global carbon emissions by a staggering 1.2 percent, equivalent to the U.K.\u2019s total carbon emissions in 2014.<\/p>\n<p>Co-founder and CEO Alan Healy sat down with Unreasonable on a rainy afternoon in the English countryside to discuss climate change, Exergyn\u2019s potential for colossal disruption, and what it means to live unencumbered by fear.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33016\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-header\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-header\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header.png\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-33016\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header.png\" alt=\"exergyn-header\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-Header-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>So let\u2019s begin with the evolution of the company \u2014 what path have you traveled to arrive where you are today?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Sure, so I&#8217;d been working with my two co-founders on another project, and they said: \u201cWe&#8217;ve been looking at this technology involving shape-memory alloy and we think there might be a way that we could use it to harness, or to convert, waste heat into energy.\u201d And I looked at it with them and essentially said, \u201cLook, that sounds great. It hits my philosophical buttons because I feel very passionately about the climate. Except I think you&#8217;re going about it completely the wrong way from a business perspective.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"left\"><p>The total amount of energy lost each year as wasted hot water alone is equal to twice the output of Saudi Arabia\u2019s oil and gas.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;The energy lost as wasted hot water equals 2x the output of Saudi Arabia\u2019s oil and gas.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So we got to work. I was the first full-time employee, unpaid of course, back in 2012. My partners were working for nothing too, though they sensibly kept working in other paid jobs part-time. Since then, we\u2019ve raised \u20ac6 million in total between co-funding, fundraising, and winning a <a href=\"https:\/\/ec.europa.eu\/programmes\/horizon2020\/\" target=\"_blank\">Horizon 2020<\/a> grant, worth \u20ac2.5 million. Now there are almost 20 people working with us.<\/p>\n<p>We have, we believe, solved the key issues around the technology. We&#8217;ve filed about 20 patents, so we feel we&#8217;ve locked down the tech such that no one else can copy what it is we&#8217;ll do. We&#8217;ve mapped a lot of the potential market and talked to a lot of customers. We\u2019re producing ever-bigger, ever more efficient prototypes. We have produced grid-quality electricity which has been verified by a third party, who was the ex-President of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.idgte.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Institution of Diesel and Gas Turbine Engineers<\/a> in the U.K.<\/p>\n<p>Our next generation prototype, early 2017, won&#8217;t be too far from the end product. Just that we have to put 3,000 hours on it, so it&#8217;ll be somewhat funding related. But, yeah, we&#8217;re seeing some exciting times!<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/191505946?title=0&amp;portrait=0\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>What will it take to get you from this stage to commercialization?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: We\u2019re constantly improving the technology. The wire that we use, the shape-memory alloy, contracts and expands, and just like an elastic band that you keep pulling and stretching, it eventually stops returning to its original shape. We\u2019re learning how many cycles we can get from it, because when it wears out it has to be replaced, which will indicate the degree of maintenance necessary for the engine.<\/p>\n<p>Until a year ago, no one in the world had ever reached more than a million cycles with shape-memory alloy, so it seemed like we were sort of trying to push the envelope of what was possible. To date, we have tested a wire that reached over 3 million cycles. We project we can get to 5 million this year and 10 million next year. Ten million cycles within our product would represent a replacement interval of 2.5 years.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_33035\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-33035\" data-attachment-id=\"33035\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/img_0441-copy-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_0441-copy-1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"300,450\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 5D Mark II&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1443789577&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Copyright:Kevin Goss-Ross&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;50&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.00625&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"img_0441-copy\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_0441-copy-1.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_0441-copy-1.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-33035 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_0441-copy-1.jpg\" alt=\"img_0441-copy\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-33035\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alan Healy, CEO of Exergyn<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>What are some of the other current applications for shape-memory alloy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: It&#8217;s used in some medical products. It comes in contact with the body and then contracts a little bit, so it\u2019s used in hard stents, and in some braces. I think NASA used it on the Mars Rover. It\u2019s typically been used for kind of high-end, somewhat expensive applications, so the way we&#8217;re using it would be very different and would require volumes of much more, much less expensive versions of the wire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And how does shape-memory alloy unlock this whole process?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Shape-memory alloy is essentially one of the only substances in the universe that contracts \u2014 and does so powerfully \u2014 when heated; most things expand. So imagine I had a thin single shape-memory alloy wire, which is just nickel and titanium. One meter of that wire, when heated, would lift four of me up off the ground by three or four centimeters. It&#8217;s powerful. And if we have a relatively small core, we might fit 500 wires into that. Every 10 seconds we cycle hot and cool water in, so it expands, contracts, expands, contracts. And each core would lift the equivalent of 60 tons in that 10 second cycle.<\/p>\n<p>So we&#8217;ve got four cores working at a sequence of almost 250 tons every 10 seconds being moved up and down. It\u2019s almost like a bicycle that&#8217;s in 500th gear that looks like it&#8217;s moving slowly, but if you&#8217;re actually able to move it at a kind of constant rate, the torque is incredibly powerful.<\/p>\n<p><strong>One of the greatest appeals of the Exergyn engine is that it could be produced so cheaply. Most of the other materials already exist on the market, right?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Yep. Hydraulics and electrics have been around for over 100 years, so it&#8217;s very old technology to take a vertical movement up and down and convert that into electricity. We can buy the hydraulics and the electrics off the shelf, and even our own unit you can buy \u2014 the pistons, the valves, the steel that goes around the core \u2014 all off the shelf. In terms of what materials we\u2019ll need to have manufactured, it\u2019s really only the shape-memory alloy itself. It&#8217;s that simple, really, that&#8217;s all it is.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33034\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3.png\" class=\"size-full wp-image-33034 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3.png\" alt=\"exergyn-3\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-3-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>What are some of the challenges you face as CEO of Exergyn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Well, we&#8217;ve been going for about four years now and we&#8217;re looking to commercialize in a couple of years. We&#8217;re hoping to raise about \u20ac8 million in the next six months or so, and that&#8217;s probably the big challenge.<\/p>\n<p>But another challenge is actually when you&#8217;re running around with a million things to do and there\u2019s the fog of everyday life and you need to see how you can identify the right problems that need to be addressed and how to break those into components that can be dealt with.<\/p>\n<p>I think personally as well, I often feel a little bit between two worlds as someone who can be quite creative, and someone capable of being very organized and corporate. So corporate people think I&#8217;m a bit artsy, artsy people think I&#8217;m a bit corporate, and a lot of other people just think I&#8217;ve made a lot of mad decisions over my life because I&#8217;ve never really been afraid in the same way that some people seem to be.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose, like many in the spirit of Unreasonable Group, I\u2019ve always been a bit of a misfit, in the way that you feel that you look at the world differently than other people do.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33032\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-2-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1.png\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-33032\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1.png\" alt=\"exergyn-2\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-2-1-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Tell me a bit more about how lacking fear has enabled you to pursue the work that you&#8217;re doing now, and what your relationship to fear is.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Well, I guess I&#8217;ve been quite a philosophical person from an early age, and very early on I reckoned that I&#8217;m incredibly lucky to be born in the age I&#8217;ve been born. I&#8217;m also very lucky to have been born in the \u201cfirst world\u201d and to have been born into a family where I was given access to education. So instead of looking around at my peers and trying to jump ahead of them on the ladder, I\u2019ve always thought about the fact that I&#8217;m already more privileged than 99 percent of the population and, so long as I can stay healthy, I will never go without a bed to sleep on, a roof over my head, or a meal in my belly.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"left\"><p>I&#8217;m not afraid of how people view me.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;I'm not afraid of how people view me.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve never seen the need for the expensive car. I guess I always knew that money didn&#8217;t really make me happy, even when I worked for Goldman-Sachs for a couple years \u2014 at the start of my career, when the money was relatively normal compared to my peers, but likely to leap stratospherically if I stayed. There&#8217;s nothing that I&#8217;m afraid of, really other than ill health to myself and my family. So if you start off from that point of view, you can\u2019t really be afraid of failing. I&#8217;m not afraid of how people view me. Most of my peers thought I was absolutely bonkers when I left Goldman-Sachs to head down to South Africa to set up a brick factory in a township. But Mandela had come to power and I thought that was a good thing to be doing.<\/p>\n<p>Up until the age of 40, instead of chasing the dollar, I was seeking adventure and fulfillment. So as soon as I felt I&#8217;d mastered one area \u2014 whether that be finance or law or marketing \u2014 I\u2019d look to another, just out of a sense adventure.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"\u201ccenter\u201d\"><p>When I had a daughter, I decided I had done enough talking about climate change. It was time to try and do something.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;When I had a daughter, I decided I had to act on climate change. Enough talking.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Eventually, I began writing patents (just two) and children\u2019s novels. By the age of 40, I thought, &#8220;Well, maybe I could bring all those skills together and focus them on something.&#8221; I had been going into schools and talking about climate change because it was a theme in one of my books, and then when I had a daughter, I decided I had done enough talking about it. It was time to try and do something.<\/p>\n<p>To be honest, when you start out, it&#8217;s all about storytelling. Four or five years ago, all we were selling was a story. It was a vision. And so the ability to storytell, and to bring it together very cohesively into a business plan using the skills I had acquired, was what enabled the finance to come through \u2014 in multiple small funding rounds \u2014 and therefore to help allow the dream to become a reality.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33029\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1.png\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-33029\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1.png\" alt=\"exergyn-1\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-1-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>How has your relationship to your daughter and your legacy affected your desire to impact the massive umbrella of climate change through your work with Exergyn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Well, actually it was after 9\/11. 9\/11 was one of those things that just made me realize that it\u2019s hard to plan anything in life. It made me really stand back from what I was working on. Climate change seemed like such an important issue, and it was wrapped up a little bit in the theme of the children\u2019s book I was working on, called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tommystorm.com\" target=\"_blank\">Tommy Storm<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The story is set in a future when Earth\u2019s been altered due to climate change and the whole planet is covered in water. There are floating cities everywhere, and they all bicker and can&#8217;t agree who\u2019ll name which city after which country, so they compromise and name themselves after varieties of cheese.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the kind of tone of the book, there&#8217;s a lot of silliness, but you can\u2019t hit kids over the head with something like climate change. I always felt it was dealt with in a very solemn way. You can tackle something with a little bit of humor, but humor only works when there&#8217;s a little bit of truth in it.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"\u201cright\u201d\"><p>You can tackle something with a little bit of humor, but humor only works when there\u2019s a little bit of truth in it.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;Humor only works when there\u2019s a little bit of truth in it.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I could have set the book in 2300, but I set it in 2096 because that&#8217;s the world that our kids will all bequeath to their kids and to their grandkids. That\u2019s the world that they can make a difference to. Writing the book felt like I was doing something. Sometimes you feel that you nearly want to solve the whole problem yourself, or that nothing you do can make a big difference, but you just have to step back and say, \u201cIf I can make a small difference, and if everyone made a small difference, that&#8217;s how we solve it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>How can Exergyn make a difference?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: The amount of wasted hot water out there is enormous. The total amount of energy lost each year as wasted hot water alone is equal to twice the output of Saudi Arabia\u2019s oil and gas. So we&#8217;ve developed an engine that runs on hot water. And our addressable market is a big potential value, \u20ac290 billion, or so. And if we could deploy our product 100 percent, that could reduce global carbon emissions by over 1 percent annually.<\/p>\n<p>So, something like cargo shipping, for example. So much of everything we consume is still transported by ships. Almost everyone travels by plane, so we don\u2019t think about it, but almost everything we get, everything we have, is shipped.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s still a huge amount of wasted hot water there. Then there are solar applications where you could produce hot water very quickly, and with our unit you could even electrify African villages at low cost.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who will your initial target be?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: The world is changing so fast at the moment in our energy market. What we need initially is to target people who use their engines 24\/7 and either pay a high price for electricity or get a high price for the electricity they export. So, we are initially thinking of biogas, possibly someone who provides electricity to the healthcare sector, because they need to guarantee 24\/7 power.<\/p>\n<p>So we\u2019ll need to be sure we&#8217;ve got the engine perfected on land before we go to sea. We&#8217;ve got a lot of moving targets and it will likely depend a lot on who the investors are, and where that wind directs us.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33042\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-4\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-4\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4.png\" class=\"size-full wp-image-33042 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4.png\" alt=\"exergyn-4\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-4-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>I would imagine it takes a certain degree of courage to develop an engine that might render certain types of fuel obsolete. Are you anticipating any pushback? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: We actually think that our unit won\u2019t see much pushback from anyone because, to some degree, we will make existing engines more efficient. We won&#8217;t make fuel obsolete. We will simply reduce the carbon intensity of what is there already.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you hope the world would look like as a result of the success of Exergyn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: We at Exergyn are not saying that we will solve the problem. You have to tackle it from many, many different directions. But we hope to be one element of that solution. The very fact of Exergyn being successful will mean that people are beginning to see that inefficiency is an issue and that you need to try and reduce that inefficiency, and that there\u2019s a value in capturing waste heat.<\/p>\n<p>Exergyn\u2019s role in itself would have a positive effect on the environment, but even moreso as more technologies are coming forth that enable cheaper solar and cheaper wind and cheaper everything else. I hope we will move ourselves collectively towards a more sustainable path.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33043\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/engine-runs-water-qa-exergyn\/exergyn-5\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,512\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"exergyn-5\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5.png\" class=\"size-full wp-image-33043 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wary-sunlight.flywheelsites.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5.png\" alt=\"exergyn-5\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5.png 1024w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/unreasonablegroup.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Exergyn-5-810x405.png 810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>How would you define that sustainability?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Well I suppose that\u2019s a huge part of the question. If sustainable means that if we stick with just what we&#8217;re doing we can just about avert disaster, that&#8217;s terrifying, because you&#8217;ve got no buffer. I would hope that people would put a price on carbon. That&#8217;s probably the ultimate buffer. A carbon tax would also make our product and other technologies more viable, while making carbon fuels less attractive.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"left\"><p>I hope we will move ourselves collectively towards a more sustainable path.<span id=\"tweetquote\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gC9KRr&amp;via=unreasonable&amp;text=&quot;I hope we will move ourselves collectively towards a more sustainable path.&quot; @exergyn\"><i class=\"fa fa-twitter\"><\/i> Tweet This Quote<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If we could get tens of thousands of our units out there alongside other emerging technologies, we could start to eat into reducing the increase in carbon in the atmosphere.<\/p>\n<p>We only ever look to 2100 and talk about how we can stay below a 2 degree temperature increase. But even if we just keep the current amount of carbon in the atmosphere, what will the world look like in 2400? You never hear that conversation. I hope that Exergyn can be part of the next crucial steps in solving this issue so that others can stand on our shoulders and fight to ensure that the planet is as beautiful as it can be and as appropriate for life into 2300, 2400, into 3000.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>This company participated in <a href=\"http:\/\/unreasonableimpact.com\" target=\"_blank\">Unreasonable Impact created with Barclays<\/a>, the world\u2019s first multi-year partnership focused on scaling up entrepreneurial solutions that will help employ thousands while solving some of our most pressing societal challenges.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What if hot water, a resource that has proven nearly impossible to exploit commercially, could be harnessed and converted into a viable fuel 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