All Episodes EPISODE 3 Health & Wellbeing 53:34 02 Apr 2026

A Million Babies and What It Cost to Save Them

with Jane Chen

Co-founder of Embrace Global

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Daniel Epstein
Daniel Epstein

CEO, Unreasonable Group

About This Episode

In this episode, Daniel Epstein sits down with Jane Chen, co-founder of Embrace Global, the organization that has helped save over one million infant lives with a portable incubator that costs a fraction of traditional hospital equipment. Jane built the company from a Stanford class project into a global operation, then watched it collapse after a decade of setbacks, burnout, and a failed acquisition where every document was signed but the wire transfer never came. What follows is one of the most honest conversations about what happens after the thing you built your identity around falls apart. Jane talks about the panic attacks, the inability to read a book, the healing journey that took her from Indonesia to frog poisoning ceremonies to parts work therapy. She shares the moment she realized her relentless drive to save babies was rooted in feeling powerless as a child. And she describes surfing in Hawaii with Nathan, a boy she once held as a two-pound abandoned infant in a Beijing orphanage, now 14 years old and catching waves beside her.
Jane Chen

Featured Guest

Jane Chen

Co-founder of Embrace Global

Jane Chen is the co-founder of Embrace Global, the organization behind a portable infant incubator that has helped save over one million babies' lives in humanitarian crisis zones worldwide. Launched as a student project at Stanford in 2007, Jane moved to India for four years to build the company and bring it to market. She is a TED Fellow, Young Global Leader at the World Economic Forum, and Schwab Social Entrepreneur of the Year. Her memoir, "Like a Wave We Break," was published in 2025. She joined the Unreasonable Fellowship through the Girl Effect Accelerator in 2013.

Key Takeaways

1

Embrace built a portable incubator that maintains 98 degrees for six hours on a 30-minute charge. It has saved over one million babies across crisis zones including Ukraine, Sudan, Turkey, and Syria.

2

Jane moved to India at 25 and worked 12-15 hour days for four years. She made one friend. She didn't realize until much later she was running from childhood trauma, not just toward saving babies.

3

A major deal collapsed one week before signing. Embrace had seven days of cash left. Mark Benioff responded with one line: "I will fund your company alone. Aloha."

4

A second deal was fully signed but the acquiring company shut down before the wire transferred. Jane hit rock bottom. Panic attacks, depression, couldn't get through a meal.

5

Her healing breakthrough came through Internal Family Systems therapy: her drive to save powerless children came from feeling powerless in a violent home as a child.

6

Nathan was a two-pound baby abandoned in China, saved by an Embrace incubator. Now 14, he flew to Hawaii and went surfing with Jane. "Love is everything."

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